The Power of Purpose | The Better Than Rich Show Ep. 17

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The Power of Purpose

A person’s purpose is the foundation of who they are. It isn’t something that is simple, a job, or a life’s mission. Whatever a person’s purpose is, it serves themselves and others and is bigger than materialistic goods.

Purpose brings meaning to life, it’s the root of who a person is, wants to be, and expects to become. We should know it like the back of our hand because we should be living it.

Personal growth and development is a trial and error process. So to find our purpose it’s okay to decide on one thing and then decide it needs to be changed completely to align better with what we want our purpose to be.

Does Life Have A Purpose?

If we have a purpose then everything should have a purpose.

It is easy to fall into a feeling that nothing matters. Because we are here today and gone tomorrow, so why does what we do matter?

Everyone has a purpose, even if that purpose is just providing a better situation for themselves and others and they don’t even know it. If life did not have a purpose we wouldn’t care to take care of others. We find purpose by finding what we want to maximize. What do we need more of, and what needs to be minimized to receive the maximized outcome.

What in the past was lacking and would be a positive addition to our future selves? Purpose should serve our past, and future selves by solving a past problem to benefit the future.

Purpose is deeper than a position or a job, positions are goals, not a person’s purpose, though a position can be a vehicle to help us progress our purpose.

What Are Our Strengths?

Once we know what we care deeply about and want changes we want to begin making, we need to ensure we are qualified to make a change.

The best way to find ways to move forward on our purpose is by applying our strengths to our purpose. We all have strengths and weaknesses, no one expects a college professor to get us to Mars. Similarly, no one is expecting us to do it all, but knowing what we are capable of allows us to progress in pursuing our purpose. Using our strengths for our purpose creates confidence and allows us to find the gifts that pursuing one’s purpose has to offer.

Finding small gifts within pursuing our purpose are the keys to becoming Better Than Rich. The small things in life like holding the door for someone, or having a loving conversation with one’s spouse. Being able to be grateful for the small gifts purpose provides is how we view life beyond the riches. Gratitude leads to further alignment with an individual’s purpose.

Connecting With Mentors

Connecting with people who can provide help finding a person’s purpose can be extraordinarily helpful. A mentor can help draw out the talent that is already within us and ensures we are consistently learning.

These people have already walked the walk and talked the talk and can give great advice, open doors, and introduce us to new ideas.

Mentors are also fantastic to have during times of low energy or the winter season. Most times periods of pain are where we grow the most. Those times should be analyzed, learned from, accepted, and let go. If we are still holding onto past pain from over eighteen months ago, we haven’t yet learned the lessons that pain was attempting to teach us.

Mentors can help us see the gift in pain, which can be hard to find when healing or during but it is always there. Once we see those gifts and find further purpose through pain, we are equipped to truly find the power in purpose

Mike Abramowitz 0:11
Welcome to the better than rich show with your hosts Andrew Biggs and Mike Abramowitz. The better than rich show helps ambitious leaders who are on a mission to leave the world better than they found it changed their perspective on what's important, increase their income and impact and systemize their life and business. If you've ever struggled with finding your purpose, and felt disconnected or distracted or found yourself going through the motions, this show will remind you that what you do matters and will re inspire you to chase your highest dreams, it's time for you to become better than rich.

Andrew Biggs 0:48
Alright, welcome, everybody to the better than rich Show. I'm your host, Andrew Biggs. And today, we're doing something a little bit different. As you can tell, we're here on site of our business leadership mastery event, and I'm here with my co host, Mike Abramowitz. And we are excited to, to kind of have a little bit of a different setup, we have a really cool opportunity to actually do a podcast where we're in person, right instead of over zoom. And so I just think that gives us a cool opportunity to pitch and catch in a different way, Mike, but how are you doing today?

Mike Abramowitz 1:16
Yeah, it's, it's been fun setting up the event. And we have 20 great people come in, and just being able to serve them. And just, we're already seeing the chat kind of blow up with people land in flights coming in. Got to two guys go into the casino tonight.

Andrew Biggs 1:31
That's how they actually get to the event on time tomorrow, okay, you know who you are. Be here at 9am. Okay. That's great. And as you can tell from the from the screen, today's topic is the power of purpose. And, you know, Mike and I have had a chance to sit down really all week, right and talk about our brand, what it represents who we are, who we are to the marketplace. And when we when we really landed on, you know, it's been somewhat similar to this, but we're just honing it in further and further, further, which anybody who's ever done branding and marketing, that's just part of the process, right, just continually uncovering more and more about the specifics of who you are, what you're trying to accomplish. What we've really landed on is this opportunity for us to help people systemize their life and systemize their business. And so it's kind of serving the individual, but then also serving their business needs. And so one of these topics today is more so on the life side. And that's the power of purpose. And it's really foundational to everything that we do who we are, is to help people discover their purpose, right? When you discover your purpose, life becomes just so much more meaningful, so much more exciting. And you feel like you're in the game, you're not just going through the motions on a daily basis. And so I'm excited to break down this topic, and just kind of riff with you back and forth. But when we talk about the power of purpose, from your perspective, what's something that comes up right away, and I'd love to hear you just kind of kick us off, and we can dive into just different concepts around this topic.

Mike Abramowitz 2:59
Yeah. I mean, it's, it's interesting because as I've evolved in personal growth, as I've continued to learn more, it's it's become more meaningful purposes become even more meaningful every single time. So initially, when I learned about purpose, going back maybe a decade, decade and a half ago, it was just like, this is this is purpose and mission is almost like the same thing. It's like this is my mission in life, this is my purpose in life, my vision in life, they all kind of like kind of blended together. But recently, I realized that purpose is more of like the depth, it's like going down to the roots of who I am, who I'm out to become, what am I out to do? What do I want to accomplish and being routed to something and planting a flag into something that's really really deep. So I anchored that purpose to a purpose statement and that purpose statement is that my purpose of my life is to educate, inspire and be a force for good for myself and others. And when I say that to myself, I think about number one myself because sometimes purpose is what I do for the outside world but purpose also if I can't fill I can't fill from an empty cup. So purpose for myself and also for others I think is really powerful. So whatever it is, as we have this conversation of like whatever your purpose is, it's got to be for me and it's also got to be for we it's there's got to be something that's grander than just you know possessions or travel or my my purpose is to you know, something surface level like it's got to be real deep

Andrew Biggs 4:34
right right. And if you can't rattle off your purpose statement the way Mike did right there then you don't you don't have your purpose down well enough right it needs work it needs some some sort of shaping and molding

Mike Abramowitz 4:46
and to your point that that little sentence purpose of my life is to educate inspire before us for good for myself and others was like dozens of Scratch sheets of paper, positioning words scratch and words. Like just the whole works just to get to this condition. memorize sentence that feels really aligned. Well

Andrew Biggs 5:03
that's like just like a little sidebar. It's like so many people don't realize how much personal growth and development is like a trial and error process. And it's really like a creative process. It's a it's like an artist at work. And you're like, creating your identity. And your you know, even what do we have planned for this weekend, even though it's a business event, it's a lot of like, we have so many post it notes you guys would not believe like, it's like, it's gonna be so much like, you know, coming up with something and then tearing it apart and saying, Nope, that's not it. Right. One of my favorite choreographers growing up when we were we were doing dancing and are musicals and stuff, you know, he would come up with something, he teach it to us. We do it and then he go, yeah, hate it, change it. Let's go in and we'd immediately change it. Because, you know, until you, yeah, I can dance I can do. Yeah, I did about you like tap and jazz and a triple threat. It's called in the theater business, right? Sing, dance and act. So sprinkle a little piano on top right. But the, what I would say about around purpose is like it first off, you guys have to understand, and this is where everyone has to start with purpose. You have to ask yourself, Does life have a purpose? Right? And I mean, that's, you know, we think about deep questions. You know, you have to go there and ask yourself that if you are to have a purpose, then obviously, you have to assume that everything has a purpose. Right. And that's, that's the foundational question. And, you know, I've kind of grappled with that question, personally. And sometimes I'm like, No, it's all you know, nothing matters, right? Kind of the old when things are challenging, correct, right. And it's, it's like, nothing really matters. And, you know, or you just want to not feel pain, right. And so you go into this Bohemian Rhapsody, you know, sort of way of like, well, nothing really matters. You know, we're all just dust in the wind. And, you know, we're here today gone tomorrow. But what I, what I really like to challenge people with is to think about, you know, everybody, you know, can we kind of intellectualize not having a purpose, and kind of be like, Oh, it doesn't matter, you know, I'm just a speck of dust floating through space. You know, I only live for 80 years, and the universe apparently has been here for 13 point 7 billion years or whatever. So why does it matter what I do today, we can kind of justify that. But the truth is, every single person lives as if they have a purpose, right? Even if that purpose is simply to bring about better situations for yourself and others, you will act you will, you will take action, whether it's going to a job that you hate, or it's paying the bills on time or whatever, you are always going to act in a way, in such a way that does have a purpose, and you're acting as if it does. And so basically, it's like you will work to create better situations for yourself. And that should be a clue that you actually do care, right? Because if nothing has a purpose, then why do you care about the war in Ukraine? If nothing has a purpose, why do you care about human rights? If nothing has a purpose? Why do you care about a starving child, you know, on the streets, or in Africa or wherever? Doesn't make any sense? You shouldn't care? If life doesn't happen, have a purpose? That's a perfectly acceptable outcome. All of those things, I'll shut up.

Mike Abramowitz 8:24
No. And one of the things that you have talked about a bunch with me and also with better than rich is, one of the purposes is to minimize the amount of suffering that one experiences, right? So even if that's the opposite, so if the purpose is to minimize suffering, well, that's okay. Right? If we say minimize suffering, then if we're minimizing something, then what are we maximizing? So for minimizing suffering, the opposite might be maximizing fulfillment. And that that's where the curiosity begins. So if we could start being curious, curious on what do I want to maximize in my life? If I want to minimize suffering, then what do I want to maximize? Do I want to maximize my friendships? I want to maximize my experiences? Do I want to maximize what I'm learning? What am I able to teach? And that's something I've been really diving into, I'm 36, to be 37 in June and thinking in my life, it's like, if I could spend the first half of my life assuming I live to, let's say, 90, until 45, if I could spend the first half of my life learning as much as possible. And then I spend the second half of my life teaching everything I just spent the first half of my life learning. And where I learned this concept is, I think it was maybe Carnegie who said, I want to spend the first half of my life earning and the second half of my life, giving all that money away. So it's like I spend the first half making my money second half, giving it all away, and I took that and I said, What if I took that with knowledge, get as much knowledge as I possibly can in my first half of my life. Second half of my life be the sage who could just like Teach and give and offer more. And that seemed that seems to ring really true for me hence my purpose statement of education. inspire and be a force for good for myself and others. And I think about all the little likes, like the little me's that are like up and coming up in the rankings. And that's where a lot of the passion in my like late 20s, early 30s have grabbed tomorrow and go into the schools and speaking and like, I specifically remember going to Thurgood Marshall middle school and having a kid.

Andrew Biggs 10:24
I mean, I love that you went to school, I mean,

Mike Abramowitz 10:26
a kid, a child, you know, like, is just so memorable to have this kid stand up and talking about like purpose and some of these deep type of conversations, like your goals and your purpose in life and why you're here. And he's like, I want to be a professional soccer player. I said, Why is it important to you said, that's because my uncle's a professional soccer player, somewhere, maybe like Colombia, or wherever it was? And I said, that's, that's amazing. So why is that important to you? He says, because I want to be even better. I said, How are you showing up for you know, this purpose and this goal that you have, he said, Well, I wake up two hours before school, and I do my running before I come to school. And he, you know, this is he's probably seventh grade, talking about running before he goes to school doing a workout before he even goes to school, that's like, five in the morning for a kid. And he's just, like, lit up with energy. And, and at the end, he pulled me out, he pulled me aside at the end of the class, and he's just like, thank you so much for asking me because no one ever asked me that. Like, whenever I tell anyone, I want to be a professional soccer player, they're like, Well, maybe you should be a doctor. And then, you know, it's like one of those and it's just being with a poor like, belief and draw that out of like kids was was so powerful for me to be able to play that part. And I know like, there's been mentors in my life that have been real bring that out of me. So it's it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a beautiful mission. I'm not saying you should have that mission of go educate and inspire people. But the idea of something that serves you, you in your past, and you in your future, and if you can kind of figure out what that is, what is that piece of life that's fulfilling? That's energizing, that's enjoyment that is that allows you to be more to become more to do more to enjoy more. That's where some curiosities can lie, you might even want to rewind back and just write some of those questions down. What do I want to be become? Enjoy? Do and just anchor that into something that's meaningful?

Andrew Biggs 12:24
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think when I think about purpose, one of the things that a really powerful question I received, that really became the foundation of this brand was, what's the problem you're here to solve? And the, you know, kind of like, If life has a purpose, and there are problems to solve that each of us is here to solve a problem. Some people are good and equipped to solve certain problems, right? And some people are better at serving others. Some people are really good with people, some people are really good with words. Some people are really good with numbers. Some people have this sort of skills, they some people have these other sorts of skills. Some people are creative, some people aren't okay. They just not, it's okay. Not everybody's creative. Some people are, we can call that a gift. Exactly. So we all have different gifts, different gifts, everyone has different strengths. And so what we want to try to do is find like this intersection, this Venn diagram, between, you know, what you care deeply about, and what you're really good at, and what you're qualified to actually try this off, right. You know, I'm not qualified to try to get us to Mars, I'm just not, you know, let's leave that to Elon, and I'm really glad he's working on it. But the reality is like, what is your, you know, kind of Venn diagram, and that intersection of your strengths? You know, your your superpowers, if you will, and then what you care deeply about and what you're actually qualified to do based on your experience and your education. That doesn't mean you need a formal education in something right to What does education even mean? Correct. It could just be self education. It could be formal education, it could be experiential education, right? Just like, Hey, I've been doing this for five years, I'm experienced now. Or I've been doing this for 10 years, 1520 years, or I've been doing this informally all the time. My friends come to me and asked me questions about X, Y, and Z. It's like, well, you have experience doing it. That's what

Mike Abramowitz 14:16
Tony Robbins says, I have a PhD in results. As a PhD in results, that's all that

Andrew Biggs 14:21
matters, especially these days, so can you land at that problem to solve and again, a lot of the work that we like to do we like to ask people specific questions about like, hey, what pisses you off? What breaks your heart? What's the secret dream of your heart? What could you spend all day doing and not get bored? And these are all clues if you had a billion dollars, right after you, you know, traveled the world and partied for a couple years? What would you then decide to spend your time doing? So this is just

Mike Abramowitz 14:50
a great question. It's that I I've journaled on many times. It's like, if it was a perfect Saturday, what would I be? What would I do if it was a perfect Saturday? I had a free day, like, what is it? And it's, for me, it was mind blowing on, I look back to like 2016 journal entry. And I look back to like 2013 journal entry 2019. Like, it seems like I've done this in like a three year interval. And it's almost the exact same thing. And it's, it's, for me, it's so simple. It's like, I lead such a simple life. And I love the I love that about myself. It sounds weird, but I love that it's it takes it doesn't take much for me to want to be fulfilled. I mean, you're talking about waking up and enjoying a sunrise. It's like, you know, waking up enjoying a sunrise at dawn, you know, cool breeze, you know, some workout good conversation with my wife, you know, it's like, so, so small, but if we could find those beautiful small gifts, we don't need wealth, money, and abundance of time abundance of resources to find those small gifts if we could find those small gifts, more than likely, that's where the riches and the money and all that stuff is gonna come from. I just I just finished two awesome audio books. I've read the book, greenlights by Matthew Kanay. Everyone, if you follow the show, you know, it's my man crush, but McConnell, he's awesome. And then I just finished the audiobook will with Will Smith. And those two audiobooks are fantastic. But these are two men who really speak to my soul because they have conquered what it means to be wealthy, what it means to be like, quote, unquote, rich financially and their family, their their, you know, overcoming upbringings that they have have, like, not easily broken homes, but kind of beaten homes, you know, and it's like, I love that rags to riches type of story. But if you hear them speak Jim Carrey, if you hear these people speak, that are like just very in tune with their purpose. They will say it's like, Life Beyond the riches is where life begins. And if more people could understand that the chase to get the money eventually becomes boring, eventually becomes old eventually loses its its significance, you get to the top of the mountain, it's like, well, now what achievement only goes so far. And that's why it's like, can we build this depth, you know, that you could build, there's a saying you could build 10, six foot wells, or just build 160 foot well, and like plant that deep, deep, deep root 60 feet deep. So so this idea of find find these mentors in your life? And if you could really think about? What do they have? What do they what are their? What, what makes them be? What makes them who they are? Why are they even a mentor? Why are they a role model to you? How do they lead their life? What are the principles that they lead by? And lead with? How do they lead their families? How do they lead themselves? What do they do when no one's watching? If you can answer some of these questions about a mentor, a role model or someone you look up to, you might be able to reveal some things about yourself of the things that you want to be more of or become more of, because you have that inside of you. But maybe you need someone to bring that out of you or draw that out of you hence what education is rooted from the Latin root as Yukari, which means to draw out, so education is to draw out your potential to draw out who you what the truth is about you. And if you can do that, through events, like we're putting on or through reading or listening to audiobooks or, you know, doing some personal growth, you'll find it, it's there. And if you have found it, awesome, share that with the world, because that is where that is where the fruits of life lies.

Andrew Biggs 18:37
I love it. I mean, that 60 foot well, analogy is spot on. You know, so many people come to me and they're like, my purpose. I think it's to I want to run my own company. It's like, cool, you know, like, that's like, that's like, that's a job technically, right. It's a role that we play. You know, Mike, you're on your own company, I run my own company. I know, a lot of entrepreneurs. You know, sometimes it's really sexy, sometimes it's really not. But it's like, it's kind of cool, right? But your purpose isn't to be an entrepreneur. Right? That that's, that's pretty shallow, shallow, right? It's a vehicle for your purpose, right? And so people think that it's like a role or a title, or some accomplishment is like, their purpose, right? My purpose is to make a million dollars or make a $10 million. It's like, No, you're missing the point. Right? It's something deeper beyond that, and then your your vehicle, and like, you know, these different things like hitting $10 million, I'd love to have $10 million. You know, that's, that's, by the way, all that you need, right to basically do everything you want. So that's, that's my number, Mike, just to let you in sometime in the next 20 years, right to at least have 10 mil. So But basically, the point I'm making is that's a goal, right? That's not a purpose. And so what we want is something much, much deeper. You know, another clue I'll just give you all is this, this idea that was introduced with Hey, what's your deepest wound? Right? And it's like, so often, it's the wounds that we've like, you know, where you've been cut the worst, where you've been hurt the most, where you've experienced the most depth of pain is oftentimes an area where you've experienced the most growth because of that, wounding that and maybe you know, you've overcome that. So you can actually teach it to others, right? And be the person who in that, you know, when they're in their moment of need, you know, when they're being wounded in a similar way, you can show up for them, and really speak to them in that moment, the way no one else can write the way that you know, the most qualified person on paper can't, because they haven't experienced that same wound. Does anything show up

Mike Abramowitz 20:44
for you? Yeah. And that's, and that's why what we said is life has a purpose, which is to avoid that suffering, right? Like if we want to avoid the suffering or the minimize the suffering, well, that means we've gone through some sort of suffering, to feel or to empathize. So we empathize with that pain. And we've also gone through it or we're currently going through it. When we understand that spring comes after winter, when we get through this winter season. Now, we're a few steps ahead, were a season ahead of some other people. And if we realize that we're a season ahead of somebody else, we're not like, we haven't finished the race. We can look back and say, Hey, this is these are some of the things I learned now if you you might be thinking well, shoot, they got to learn if I you know, I had to learn on my own they got to learn to maybe, but have you ever realized that anytime you do like an act of kindness for someone else, it brings you more energy? It's actually science like you get a dose of oxytocin when you do an act of kindness for someone else. If you go prove go hold the door for a stranger give a compliment to a stranger Do you know give a homeless person you know a sandwich and like you'll see it it's like, oh my gosh, God bless you. Like thank you so much. Wow, that was really nice. And like you feel good after you did the service for them. So by you going through this pain and by you going through the the wound and the healing process doesn't mean you're fully healed, but you've taken a few steps, and then you help someone else you'll get you'll get that dose of like, wow, this is maybe this is what I'm meant for. Hence, there's a gift inside the pain that is very hard to to really put into contact concept because when you're going through the pain we can't typically find the gift death of a loved one being in the hospital for eight and a half months with uncertainty with my son, right like I mean these are these are pains bank are near bankruptcy and of a relationship like car accidents, all these crazy things like what's the gift? Oh my God, no one wants to answer that freaking question. What's the gift? Yeah,

Andrew Biggs 22:54
definitely not going to ask someone in that moment. Yeah, right. There always is a gift is the lesson right? If

Mike Abramowitz 23:00
if you believe that to be the truth, I do believe that's to be the truth. There is a gift. And with my wife is a beautiful poster child of an example. Because, you know, she has gone through the most horrific trauma that I've had. I've had the opportunity to witness and also the pain of witnessing how much he's gone through during the last really, several years of our journey through having our baby and watching her go through the pain. And me not coach my wife. Just note to all the men listening do not coach your wife. She doesn't me coach. He's not broken. Don't do it. My wife's

Andrew Biggs 23:37
not interested in my coaching. Don't other people pay $500 an hour, she will gladly pay me $500 an hour to shut up.

Mike Abramowitz 23:50
So the there's a lesson there, just you know, but the point is by me just holding space and just watching observing now. She's 450 days of a blog. She's mentoring. coincidentally enough, one of my past Cutco reps, just had a micro preemie not knowing that there was any alignment there. Lindsey is like almost like mentoring this early, mid 20 year old who had a micro period just like James and she's like giving her guidance and support and like given her you know, it's amazing. And she's in all these different Facebook groups. And she's working on an actual book to help treat mom's in the moment when all this was happening, like how the hell is she going to get off the couch? How is she going to want to show up and be a mom and, and support it's like,

Andrew Biggs 24:41
and it's like in those moments we have this option to like choose bitterness or to choose, you know, what's the what's the opposite or the what's the other option that I'm trying to say here? It's like, we have bitterness as this option where I could turn into this you know, resentful, bitter, angry person On the couch, waving my

Mike Abramowitz 25:02
arms like a servant like I'm going to serve other people. Yeah, help. Yeah. Helpful service.

Andrew Biggs 25:07
Yeah. Like, acceptance, humility, service orientation. It's like, which direction do you want to go.

Mike Abramowitz 25:16
And it will click like, at some point, you don't have to force the tide. That's kind of where I was going with the story is like, you don't have to force the tide, to get to joy. Right? You know, allow it to show up organically. And when it does double down on it, you know, bet on it, invest in it, learn about it more talk about it. It's been really beautiful for me to watch, you know, and I don't even know she watches the show. So this isn't like, aliens, you know, but this is it. Yeah, it's fun for me to experience and witness somebody who is on the journey of purpose, through the wounds and through the pain and get it, you don't often get a front row seat of watching that or experiencing that totally.

Andrew Biggs 26:01
And it's also something that's really cool to watch with clients. It's really cool to watch. Probably you've watched at your company, right? Somebody who's kind of gone through the motions, and all of a sudden has this meteoric rise. Very rarely is it a skill set change that actually, you know, was the breakthrough. It's like, what are you doing differently? Oh, I, I learned this new skill, and all of a sudden, business tripled, it's never that it's never that, right. It's always, you know, I found out why I'm why I really care about what I'm doing. I connected deep, deeply to the meaning and purpose of why what we do at this organization matters. And I started communicating that to every single person on my team. And then it's like, boom, results

Mike Abramowitz 26:38
start, you know, start with why Simon Sinek right. It's like, think about the rework in the circles. It's, it's, it's, it's a beautiful way of approaching life to

Andrew Biggs 26:47
Well, hey, man, as we start to head for the exits, and you know, finished setting up here, this this beautiful event, you know, is there anything else that you want to share, you know, with, with the audience here today, before we before we head for the curtains?

Mike Abramowitz 26:58
Yeah, what I would say is, if you are a business owner, if you do run a business, or you're an entrepreneur, I would, I would highly recommend you to come up with your own personal purpose statement or your own reason for why you're doing what you're doing. Whether you're running a household, whether you're you're your parent, or you want to be a parent, or whatever, whatever legacy you want to have, get anchored to that. And then just tie that to your business. And the business becomes a vehicle for you to aggressively pursue whatever that is. So if you look at my business, my personal mission statement, as I said, to educate, inspire befores for good for myself and others. If you look at my game changer business, the game changer mission statement is to educate, inspire all representatives become exceptional individuals. And by making a difference in them. And by developing ourselves as leaders, we can make a powerful impact in our community. So my mission statement of my business for the game changer organization is a vehicle for my personal mission statement. And I it's when we created that, I don't know a decade ago, business has completely gone up tremendously. compound growth, exponential growth, because because I truly believe we got anchored to the purpose.

Andrew Biggs 28:12
Absolutely, absolutely. And so we are about to close for the day. One thing I'll just say is, I just want to give a call to action to everybody. If you're watching this live on YouTube, go ahead and click in the show notes or in the card below. To schedule a call with us you know and learn a little bit about what we do. And we can actually walk you through step by step how to discover your purpose and kind of like you know, the old joke of like the first one's free, sort of thing, like we're happy to jump on a free coaching call with you. And you know, and explore that a little bit. So check us out again, or visit us at better than rich calm to learn more. Thanks, everyone, and we'll see you next time on the better than rich show. Until then remember to leave today better than you found.

Mike Abramowitz 28:59
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